Anders Andersen

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  What happened to the "New World Order"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so as a child and youth growing up as a witness, (i'm 43 now) we often heard the expression "new world order".. the society just doesnt use that expression anymore.

  so what was the reasoning behind them amending that expression?.

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  The term NWO is now commonly used by nutcase conspiracy theorists who believe worldwide governments are controlled by hidden behind the scenes powers (Illuminati etc).

  JW firmly believe almost the same, but in their mind the behind the scenes power is Satan, not the Illuminati.

  Of course JW want to distance themselves from such insane nutcrackery as believing in Illuminati. (Lol)
  

  So they no longer use the term NWO, lest anyone be confused about the specifics of the conspiracy and think JW are nutcrackers too.

  They do a similar thing when it comes to creationism. They know denying scientific facts is silly, therefore they try hard to distance themselves from 'creationism', conveniently omitting that they are very much creationists themselves too. In reality the difference between Young Earth Creationism and Young Humans Creationism is moot, but JW blow it up as big as possible.

  JW just know people think they're crazy, and try to limit being identified with other crazies.
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  A gem from the new school book

  by Anders Andersen in

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  use sources properly.

  apply scriptures in harmony with their context, the bible’s overall message, and the publications of “the faithful and discreet slave.” (matt.

  in other words, if you happen to discover how our doctrines are contradicted by the bible, don't use those verses.. use secular sources in accord with the original context and the intent of the writer.. .

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  Use sources properly. Apply scriptures in harmony with their context, the Bible’s overall message, and the publications of “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45)

  In other words, if you happen to discover how our doctrines are contradicted by the Bible, don't use those verses.

  Use secular sources in accord with the original context and the intent of the writer.

  Surely they must be joking. What an insane level of hypocrisy.

  'You who preaches to quote secular sources fairly, do you quote out of context?'
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  The Netherlands - Upcoming peaceful protest to commemorate the effect of sexual abuse in closed communities such as JW (october 6th)

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  facebook event link here.

  translation of the dutch event description:.

  foundation reclaimed voices organizes a peaceful protest to commemorate the effects of sexual abuse within closed religious communities such as jehovah's witnesses.. the location of the protest offers room to about 200 people.

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  Emmen is only an hour drive for me, but with a very much pimi wife I can't afford to go.

  Let us know how it went?
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  No Watchtower shipment

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was announced at our clam that there "was no shipment of the october study editions of the watchtower" and that they were asking if people could just use electronic or make their own copies.. is this just happening in ohio, or did you hear the same thing?.

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  you'd think they'd have their own couriers delivering for free wouldnt you?

  Aren't they actually moving away from that? Afaik they started using commercial parcel services in the UK?
  
  
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  Funeral/Memorial at the Kingdom Hall ... Would you go?

  by Wild_Thing in

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  2. friends

  let's say an aunt or uncle dies.

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  let's say you barely knew them.. let's say their memorial service was held at the kingdom hall.. let's say if you attend, you have to deal with shunning from family and jws, and you are forced listen to them present their paradise promotional materials, and the dead person's "earthly hope™", and let's face it ... the heeby-jeebies of having to be in a kingdom hall again.. would you put yourself through it?

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  Recently the JW mom of an exjw friend died. I knew her as we were all in the same congregation. I like and respect both of my friend's parents and his siblings. His brother (is still very much a JW too) used to be my friend.

  I went to the condolence 'meeting' at the funeral home on Monday evening. And I went to the KH propaganda talk on Wednesday.

  Yes, I very much dislike that propaganda talk. Yet there are quite a few reasons for me to go anyway:

  • Support my exjw friend, who would be in the KH with his pimi wife and family.
  • Support my pimi wife.
  • Show the JW I know I'm not miserable nor afraid of them.

  As expected the talk sucked. I'm happy the deceased had arranged for her actual funeral to be a friends and family only private event outside the kh, where friends and children spoke about personal memories.

  Even my wife thought the talk was just an impersonal advertisement that wasn't fitting the deceased, nor the partly nonjw audience.

  I stayed in the KH quite long afterwards. Some people came to me to chat (I was pinned down by a sleeping daughter). Some people notably didn't. Some did that strange hug that means "my JW brainwashed conscience doesn't allow me to actually speak to you, but my humanity compels me do do something loving and acknowledge you anyway".

  Anyway my exjw friend very much appreciated me being there, and that's most important to me.

  Oh, and I accidentally poured coffee on a chair in the auditorium. Oops.
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  Are there less BOE letters?

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  it seems there used to be a new boe letter leaked all the time, besides videos, etc.

  have the leaks been plugged?.

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  Watchtower has mostly replaced BOE letters with monthly memo's in which they combine all the nonsense.
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  Overwhelmed

  by Freedom rocks in

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  2. beliefs

  does anyone else feel overwhelmed on what to believe?.

  i've been doing lots of research on beliefs, evolution, creationism but i feel no further forward about what i truly believe.

  for example i looked at the fossil record and tiktaalic and thought great it proves a lot but then i've seen counter arguments on youtube of people basically saying its a load of rubbish and doesn't prove anything.

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  To add: think about what process you appear to trust when it comes to technology, food, medicine, etc. Why suddenly distrust that process when it comes to geology, biology, paleontology, etc.?
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  Overwhelmed

  by Freedom rocks in

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  2. beliefs

  does anyone else feel overwhelmed on what to believe?.

  i've been doing lots of research on beliefs, evolution, creationism but i feel no further forward about what i truly believe.

  for example i looked at the fossil record and tiktaalic and thought great it proves a lot but then i've seen counter arguments on youtube of people basically saying its a load of rubbish and doesn't prove anything.

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  "I don't know" is a perfectly fine answer to the big questions. Embrace not knowing. Own it. You can always make up your mind later.

  It's not as if the answers have any impact on your daily life, right? You'll try to be the best, kindest you anyway (I hope).
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  Simple introduction to the theory of evolution

  by Diogenesister in

  1. forum
  2. links

  hi new folks, lurkers and trolls.

  i thought i would post this simple but interesting video which shows how scientists bring multiple lines of evidence together to prove evolution is true; for example:.

  comparative anatomy.

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  @Perry,

  I see from one of your pictures that (some believe) there have been 1393 'kinds' of animals on the Ark?

  By what process would 1393 'kinds' evolve transform into the millions of animal species alive today?

  Do you think this involved the change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations?

  If not, are you able to propose an alternative?

  If so, please read the first sentence of this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution?wprov=sfla1
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  Simple introduction to the theory of evolution

  by Diogenesister in

  1. forum
  2. links

  hi new folks, lurkers and trolls.

  i thought i would post this simple but interesting video which shows how scientists bring multiple lines of evidence together to prove evolution is true; for example:.

  comparative anatomy.

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  Fact: All life comes from a previous life

  Does it? How do you know?

  Assuming you believe in a Creator, do you believe your Creator is alive?

  Fact: All information comes from a mind

  Does it? How do you know?

  Entertaining the idea that all information comes from a mind, where did the information that describes the functions of minds come from?

  Assuming you believe in a Creator, do you believe this Creator has a mind?

  If you answered the last question below each quote with yes, doesn't that mean your premises are incorrect, and thus your reasoning incorrect?

  Note that I'm not saying no Creator exists! I'm merely discussing your reasoning.